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Every exhaust is hand made,Marco probably had his mind somewhere else when he was building mine... Mine had minimal clearance,in general it was very bad made,I won't shop again from Pipe Design.

It fits easily now, on the main bracket I use 2 M8 bolts instead of studs and nuts,I also use a M6 bolt on the tailpipe. Allen studs with nuts might be a future option, at the present,I have perfect threads on the cranckcase. I fit the exhaust in the following order, first I tighten the stub nuts having a copper gasket fitted between the stub and the cylinder, then I mate the main exhaust body on the stub joint, the exhaust 'u-bend' was hitting/fouling on the cowling (I use a 1mm head gasket but the clearance was a joke) I had to bend the front of the cowling a lot,I don't know if it can be seen from this photo. After doing this, I managed to slide it on the joint a little,BUT it started fouling on the other side, the only way to make it fit and slide it all the way in,was to make this cut. This is how it looks from underneath My advice to you,in order to avoid future drama,is to check the clearance with the cowl fitted,.

Well done , clever engineering. I'll use the S-Box in a 60s looking replica,so I wanted to have the fixed exhaust bracket. I also had to modify the head cowl.

Sorry guys, last post from me, I easily go offtopic,if I get challenged

Greece that's me

I don't have a welding machine, I carried on my hands the crankcase with the cylinder,head and the exhaust fitted, to a friend few blocks away from my place. Yes the floor is my trademark The majority of the pics that I post show the terrazzo, like this one that I'm working on lately. Sometimes pictures are taken outside, this one is the engine that I test on post 29 http://www.germanscooterforum.de/topic/309310-pipe-design-s-box/page-2#entry1068122684 BGM RT 195,BGM 60/110mm,BGM Clubman,BGM DC stator with BGM flywheel,PHBH30mm.

My story ends here, I cut and welded the exhaust. Marco hasn't replied to me yet,I don't care now.

Hi Guys, I don't want to bore you with Marco etc, and the fact that he hasn't replied to me YET,sorry about this, few days ago I fitted a Gori 50mm to a new build,it fits like a dream, I'm going to sell the S-Box,if anyone is interested let me know,send me a PM, you have seen the problem,you know what it needs to be done, if you can fix it, good for you, I don't have a welding machine,I'm not going to pay extra money for this. Thanks GORI

Thanks.

Thanks guys. Arthur is the PD silent box,the S-Box? If yes, do you have any pics? Where did they cut and weld?

If you wanna listen music,go find a jukebox.

Another useful post, if you cannot contribute,at least don't post anything, I don't care how easily you get bored,this is a topic for a non fitting exhaust and a dealer who doesn't care about his products.

Arthur, my problem is that Marco,someone who I discovered in this forum via the exhaust dyno thread, has been paid 320 euros by me,for an exhaust that doesn't fit few months ago, if you don't have the same problem,don't post at this topic, I want to find out who else has this problem and if we can solve it, there so many other topics post there if you don't care about this.

Sorry guys,I haven't introduced myself, I'm Dimitrios from Greece.

Few years ago,an English artist had sung, 'what difference does it make?' He is not replying.

Update I sent him a few new emails today, they automatically return back,I receive Delivery Status Notification (Failure)‏ Did he go again for holidays? Did he block me? Is this guy serious or is he a complete joke? Does anyone know him? Can anyone tell him to respond to my (our) problem? Is anyone FB 'friend' of him,can he ask him if he is aware of the problem?

I'm not naive

I'm still waiting Marco to reply to me, he must be back from holidays now.

Yes,the cylinder walls are paper thin that's why I I prepared two cylinders, I just wanted to try the Kawasaki conversion, the only missing part to start porting, is the exhaust. I can't wait anymore. This is the crankcase.

While we are waiting for Marco's response these are the two Autisa cylinders that have been bored out to 71mm and wait for the S-box. The cylinder head has been reprofiled to the Wiseco crown from MB

Νο offence Menke,thanks ,don't worry. I don't live in Germany.I don't even speak German. I see your point,my very last built,Italian cast iron 225cc,with 70mm Asso piston ans Rapido head,TV200 gearbox, use a standard exhaust without mushroom. The other cast iron that I want to use the S-Box with,is a 245cc cast iron Spanish Autisa with 71mm Wiseco Kawasaki H2 piston and AF 62/116mm crank. I haven't used the Stratos,I sold it brand new and unused. I have recently done 2 RT195,one with 60/110mm crank. I have a love with clubmans Rapido 225,AF42mm Cast iron 200cc,AF42mm Casa 185 with S2 clubman Rapido 252cc (72mm piston/62mm crank) with the 3rd Off Road clubman that Ron Moss made,long before the Avanti clubman. Casa clubman Sito Ancillotti Gori 50mm on a RT195

Hi,the irony is that I sold this exhaust to support financially the payment for the S-Box. It is a Stratos Clubman from Tutto Lambretta,not a Mito Exhaust. Few year ago,Mito was making clubmans for Tutto but not anymore,Mito is making their own clubman exhausts now. This is Stratos, good torque at low revs,next to a standard Tutto Lambretta S3 exhaust without mushroom. Stratos u-bend on a RT195 This is the Mito,better on higher revs. Matteo from Mito had sent me this noise test

I can,I had opened a topic at the LCGB chi-chat section,I also have one at Scooterotica, the majority of the Brits is informed about this problem, I decided to open a topic here to see if it will 'touch' Marco.

No,BGM is a really well made exhaust and has perfect fit ,I just want to use the S-Box,I like the look of it, I was between the Mito Box or the S-Box. I prefer riding with good torque at low revs so S-Box was my choice

Τhere are two options, either cut,remove metal,weld at blue line or cut,add metal at the red line (or somewhere close), I don't know how each option will affect the tuning length of the exhaust. Marco should better give us an answer. This is the problem P.S. Sorry guys, I have lost my appetite for humor on this topic